Russian Outlander/Outlander XL/Airtrek club invites you.
 

Here is the place where our non-Russian-speaking guests can contact with us.

We glad to invite you for intercommunication.
:mitsu:

For writing/answering or viewing some attachements you may need registration. You can use
Login: Guest
Pass: welcome

I'll try to translate all your questions and answers to our community.
Don't judge us strictly for our English knowledge. ;)

--
Sergy

PS: will be better if our guests will leave your names, because common login "Guest" tell nothing about. :)

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Sergy, if any assistance is required, I will be glad to lend you a hand in all matters pertaining to English/Russian (Russian/English) communication. We are very old friends - English & me :). You only whistle and here I am!

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Thanks for this oppurtunity. Can anybody advise if the user manual of MMCS (Mitsu Outlander 07) is available? I have the japanses car version and it is very difficult to operate the device correctly. Thx,.

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french spicking too
on est tres conent de vous voir visiter notre site !
on ne sait jamais))))

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badboyid,
is it you ? ;) direct link:

https://www.out-club.ru/Manual/Outlander%20XL/Outlander2007usermanual_eng.pdf

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Hellow Sergy,

Logged in as a Guest and posting to your great forum for Outlander.

I'm a Greek Owner with an Outy 2.0 turbo version, and it is hard for me to try exploring this forum.
I'd like to ask whether there is an english version of the Outy turbo workshop manual in electronic format or not.
Also I'd be interested about ecu modification in conjunction with full or part exhaust replacement and front mount of the intercooler.
I know that in Russia there are many owners, so hopefully I'll have an answer at least.
Many thanks in advance.

ECP

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Hello, ECP

I'll ask our guys about your questions.

We plan make english navigation soon.
Now only this thread is suitable for intercommmunication. Sorry.

PS: Did you see our library: https://www.out-club.ru/bible.htm ? The workshop manual is there.
Is it suitable for you ?

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Sergy hi again,

Thank you for the quick answer, I'm obliged.

In respect to the workshop manual, I think that it refers to the NON-turbo version - am I wrong?

Thanks
ECP

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4G69 engine - 2.0l w/o turbo as I understand.

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4g63 2.0 turbo is the one that I'm looking for.

Thanks
ECP

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Ok - will know. ;)
Our guys now are sleeping or thinking...

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Sergey hi,

Any new for the manual of the 4G63 turbo version please?

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Hello ECP

nope. :(

will ask again...

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Hello ECP

Sorry brother, our guys can't help.
Only one men told me about:

1) Engine is equal with Evo 8. Tuning in home condition isn't recommended.
2) Exchaust system named cat-back for CU2W has full installation manual.
3) He told about full intercooler kit with piping for CU2W - what it's mean - I don't understand.

Sorry.

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Thanks Surgey, just tell the 4G63 turbo owners that we (the Greeks together with some other owners from worldwide) writting in english in the below forum, and we would be glad if Russian owners join the same forum for info and knowledge exchange, (evolander is my user name there).

http://www.mitsubishi-forums.com/f86...-outlander.htm
http://www.mitsubishi-forums.com/t28...ing-sweden.htm

Many many thanks for yr cooperation so far.

ecp

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Ok ecp

I posted this info immedeately: https://www.out-club.ru/board/showpo...34&postcount=8

Did you see our club winter videos ?

I imagine, how difficult for you made a "quote" in russian... Sorry.

I'll help always.

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I'll have a look at the videos / thanks :)

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Surgey what is the path to the videos please???
ecp

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I posted the links here:
http://www.mitsubishiforum.com/m_209650/tm.htm

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I'm downloading the video fm rapidshare - let u know later.

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Sergey hi again,

All videos great!!!

A question to the turbo versio owners please:

What is the best exhaust diameter to build 70mm or 76mm?

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received. :)

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Sergey hi again,

A question to the turbo version owners please:
What is the best exhaust diameter to build 70mm or 76mm?

Thanks, ecp

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They answered: 76 is better for further modifications.

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good day. thanks for the manual. it is very useful. im from the Philippines.

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Did you wrote about online manual on www.adexsolutions ?
Hope that will help.

Will be better if our "guests" will leave here your names... :blush:
Fully functional english pages coming soon.

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good day. this is meldy. i was wondering if you can give me to link to information on outlander 2007 asdie from the user manual that you have. i saw the information on outlander first generation with complete details. Is this the same with the second generation which i believe there are differences? thanks

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Hello meldy

Outlander 2007 instruction manual you can download here: https://www.out-club.ru/Manual/Outla...manual_eng.pdf

Online workshop manual & body repair guide (was made by our member): http://www.outxl.adexsolutions.com/

NB: Internet Explorer 7 attempts to close new page or window - ignore this, all work fine.

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thanks sergy for the link. it is very useful. by the way, im from the philippines. meldy

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can you post in english how did your member modify the tail light by installing led. we would appreciate the procedure how yuo did it. thanks . meldy

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Hello meldy

I wrote about it here: http://www.mitsubishiforum.com/m_235579/mpage_2/tm.htm

Nothing special. You need the sharp knife and accuracy. ;)

Or are you interested in electric circuit ?

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Dear Sergy,
Great work on the tail lite modification.. Me and a couple of friends are very excited to look at this.
could you give us an idea about the difficulty of the electrical circuit?

Looks great!!

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Hello (meldy?)

I asked our members they answered, by the order:

1) electric circuit:

http://3us.ru/ss20.jpg

2) another picture:

https://www.out-club.ru/board/attach...3&d=1224740807

Our member write: need to install safe diode 1N6275 - for protect from voltage exceeding over 15v.

3) there are more pictures - how to unmount tail lights, try to translate:

Pull out the upper plastic cover gently (no screws, only pawls):

https://www.out-club.ru/board/attach...4&d=1224768995

https://www.out-club.ru/board/attach...5&d=1224768995

Right plactic cover: unscrew one screw, pull out gently:

https://www.out-club.ru/board/attach...6&d=1224768995

Remove the right rubber with rear washer pipe:
https://www.out-club.ru/board/attach...7&d=1224768995


https://www.out-club.ru/board/attach...8&d=1224768995

https://www.out-club.ru/board/attach...9&d=1224768995

https://www.out-club.ru/board/attach...0&d=1224768995

https://www.out-club.ru/board/attach...1&d=1224770563

He used the small mill-saw to open the plastic cover (instaed the knife for glue removing):

https://www.out-club.ru/board/attach...2&d=1224770563

https://www.out-club.ru/board/attach...3&d=1224770563

Another our member gave the path for searching the "tail" and "stop" signals: tail signal - from licence plate lighting, stop - from center upper stop-light of the 5th door. ;)

Hope that help.

PS: if you can't see the pictures - you must to login, this pictures are from our forum attachements, accessible only after login.

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thanks for the information.

meldy:good:

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讲英语的好，和亚洲人的俱乐部呢？日语或汉语你在这里，你可以谈？ :)

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31 square boxes... [IMG]http://www.*********/files/thinking.gif[/IMG]
At first look - Yopt is a proffessional photographer, then "photo film", but... what else ? :biggrin:

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I saw on my web-browser @work 31 square boxes
now @home I see chinese ieroglyphs.

My answer:

It is mean: let create chinese/arabic/japanese pages on our site but Yopt will be moderator. :biggrin:

PS: "photo film" - I mean a roll of film which I often used about 10-15 years ago... ;)

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Hi there my fellow Airtrek/Outlander Turbo owners. My name is Aaron. Some of you may know me as Monsta from EvolutionM.

I am the Owner/Tuner of the very powerful Airtrek Turbo that has been the topic of some posts on this forum. I have tuned many Evos and Airtrek Turbos as well as modified Honda Turbos and Nissan Skyline GTR

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/7...trek002yv6.jpg


Im going to outline the modifications of my vehicle and the installation.

I havent being able to join your forum even though Im happy to translate from Russian to English etc using google translater. If someone is able to help me with this, that will great! My email is evoair@windowslive.com



I bought my ATR in 2005 brand new. The first mod that I did was install a Hallman MBC and Boost Gauge. I found that boost was limited in first and second gears. I set the boost controller to peak at 18psi in each gear.

Using a G-tech Pro I tested the stock 0-60mph time at 7.5secs. Using the boost controller only that time dropped to 6secs.



The next mods that I did was a fuel pump/cams/safc
Fuel Pump: Walbro 255 for EVO. This was easy to install and took @30mins. The only issue was that a needed to solder the wires onto the pump instead of using the connectors provided.

Cams: Kelford 264 Rally cams. This took around 4 hours as the intercooler needed to be removed. When the cams were off, I checked the Valve springs against stock Evo 7 ones. There was not any difference and I am happy to use them for any cams up to 272 and 7800rpm.

SAFC: This was installed as per normal. Was an very rough way of tuning the car, but worked for what I needed at the time.


At this point I increased boost pressure up to 24psi peak and this reduced my 0-60 time to @5.5secs
I did however find that because of heatsoak in the intercooler, the boost dropped when I did long runs on boost. At this stage I decided to install Water Injection to offset the increase in intake temps.



Water Injection: CoolingMist Kit. The install took @2hrs. The kit came with 150psi pump, 2ltr bottle, Boost switch, check valve, tubing, nozzle. It set the system up for water only and @300cc per min. Once I did this all my long boost runs were consistant. 0-60 5.2secs


The car was running very very well, but when the summer came I started popping of the rubber intercooling pipe as the heat was so high. Ecuflash became available in the states, so even though I was not sure that I could reflash the Airtrek, I ordered a cable from Tatrix.
Through experimentation I found the grounding pin next to the odbII connector and manage to upload the rom from the ecu!!!! Then I set about finding the fuel maps etc and making a definition for my rom. Evoscan got released and I was able to tune my car properly.

Re-tune using flash 0-60 4.9secs

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/2838/dscf1140pe0.jpg
Stock ATR turbo-Evo7-GT35R

Because I could log and tune, I decided to step up the mods and decided to put on a Evo turbo and front mount intercooler. I bought a new Evo7 turbo with a 10.5cm housing and an Ebay dump pipe and a secondhand stock evo7 exhaust manifold and air intake. I also bought a selection of intercooler piping, joiners and a custom sized intercooler that I new could fit behind the bumper without too much cutting.


Turbo/Intercooler etc. This was a pretty easy thing to do. Removing the old intercooler and turbo was easy and the fitting of the new turbo/manifold etc when in without to many problems. The dump pipe lined up perfectly with the old front pipe.
I used custom piping from the turbo to the intercooler and from the intercooler past the tranny and then changed to stock Evo 7 upper intercooler piping.
The only problem was the oil/water feeds to the turbo. Got custom braided hoses made.


I was able to run 22psi peak with the stock ATR injectors and 28psi peak with 50/50 Meth water. Got my first Dyno tune done and made 240KW at the wheels on 28psi with stock exhaust!! I managed to find someone who was selling a 5zigen ATR exhaust and had that put on and re-tuned to 260KW at the wheels.

Exhaust-5Zigen cat back with custom 3" front pipe. This was easy to install. I had a local Exhaust shop make me a custom 3"front pipe as it was much cheaper than buying a Evo 7 one from Japan.

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/5...trek003iw9.jpg

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/3887/dscf0886ir4.jpg

Intake: ARC Evo 7 intake. Easy install took 30mins. Made it much more intake and blowoff valve noise.

Blowoff valve: The stock ATR valve was leaking heaps so got a Evo 7 one and that worked fine.

Rear LSD: After helping a friend change his to an RS LSD setup on his Evo 4, I noticed that the diff housings were identical to the ATR. I found a Evo9 RS LSD on ebay. It was a very easy install, but because you have to take the rear axles out, it takes time.

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/4233/dscf1028pv4.jpg

The Rear LSD completely changed how the ATR drove!! It made its so much better with power oversteer available at will!!

Wheels: Put on some Enkei RP03 17" wheels with Toyo tyres. They were much lighter than the stock wheels and look nice without standing out. I made sure that they had enough offset for me to do a brake caliper change in the future.

Brake Rotors and Pads: For the moment I installed Slotted rotors and Ferodods2500 pads on the stock brakes. Made a massive increase in performance, which was needed as the stock brakes are awful.

Tranny pressure increase: Did the pressure increase outlined in your forums. Did a good job of increasing shift pressures and speed.


At this stage the car run 12.9secs on the 1/4 mile @106mph. This was without launching as the tranny definately couldnt handle that.


This wasnt enough power and because the Evo turbo still hit peak boost with the torque convertor RPM, there was alot of wheelspin exiting corners as the torque was so high. It made it very difficult for me to drive twisty roads as fast as I like.

This is when I planned the big turbo. Initially I used a GT35R.

Turbo: Garrett GT35R with 0.63 exhaust housing

Exhaust Manifold: Evo 7+ T3 manifold from china. It used quality materials but with poor welding. It makes good power and Ive had to repair it alot, but I still like it.

Wastegate: Tial v-band 44mm

Intake Manifold: The stock ATR intake manifold has very long runners like the N/A manifold and is not very good for power. Changed it to a Evo 6 Intake manifold. Hard install only due to access- Had to run an aftermarket fuel rail as the accelerator cable rubbed against the stock fuel reg.

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/5...oto0023oj3.jpg

Fuel Pressure Reg: Because of the custom fuel rail, I got an aftermarket pressure reg.

Injectors: Precision 880cc injectors.

Zeitronix Wideband: I wanted to tune myself without going to a dyno. One of the best things I have bought for the car.

Intake: Custom 4" pipe

Catch Can: 2ltr custom

Blowoff valve: Greddy Type RS with single spring mod.

Battery: Rotated battery 90 degrees to fit the new intercooler piping.

Intercooler piping: redid intercooler piping with a much shorter route and rolled tube ends so I wouldnt pop a silicon joiner

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/9141/dscf2669n.jpg

Fans: Went to two slim line fans. Now only running one as it works fine and the other one melted because of how close it was to the hot side of the turbo lol

Brakes: Mitsubishi GTO 4pot calipers with Evo5+ 320mm Brembo discs. Made up an adapter and it fitted perfectly. Had to grind off the "mitsubishi " on the caliper as it a very very tight fit with the wheels on.

http://img477.imageshack.us/img477/3652/dscf1054cf9.jpg

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/4411/dscf1059iz2.jpg

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/1673/dscf1060hn6.jpg

ARP Headstuds: Put these on for security. Still running stock block.

Exhaust- The 5zigen one was too restrictive for the new setup so I fabricated a new 3" one myself with one resonator and a HKS muffler. This setup flows well and meets the 95dB law we have here in New Zealand. Looks less flashy for that "stock" look.

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8752/dscf1883jb9.jpg

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/21/dscf1876uq9.jpg

Water/Meth Injection: My earlier Meth kit had a pump that wasnt designed to handle meth and hence the seals blew. I then designed a system that used the stock Windscreen washer bottle with an extra washer pumpas a priming pump and a 200psi Coffee machine inline magnetic pump. This custom kit flows 1200cc per min

Front LSD: Got a Evo 9 RS front diff and installed it in the transfer case. Easy job aside from the fact you need to remove the front driveshafts.



On the dyno I made 340KW at the wheels on 24psi with the GT35R, but all wasnt well. Because of the tendancy for the auto box to change to the highest gear possible and fact that the GT35R compressor is a little large for the 2ltr the turbo was surging extremely badly. Also because the torque convertor locked up at 3200rpm and full boost was at @5000rpm there was a massive flat spot in the power delivery. Power would ramp up nicely on the torque convertor then fall flat on its face until 5000rpm.

It was at that point I decided to go slightly smaller to a GT3076 0.82 exhaust housing. This ramped up nicely on the torque convertor and continued its smooth power delivery righ through the rev range. I made similar power to the GT35R but had much more area under the curve- making for a much better driving car. Boost comes on very linear and firm and the car balances nicely on the power through a corner.
I love the change to the smaller turbo and would never recomend that ATR auto owners to go bigger than a GT30R or Evo Red.

Not long after the big turbo conversion I got the Auto tranny rebuilt. They used Borg Warner friction and cnc machined new plunger for the solenoids so they ramp up the pressure for the shifts better. I also got the torque convertor changed to a 4100rpm Stall. This means that The box spools up the turbo better and makes for excellent launches.

I have also found how to tune the Auto Box using Ecuflash. I can change how hard and fast the gearbox changes etc. It took me a year of parttime work to find the maps for the tranny and am one of two people in the world I know of who have found those maps.

I started having major issue with spark breakup so installed separate coils and ignitor so handle the extra power.

Have made 400KW at the wheels at 35psi on 50/50 meth water and have done 80,000km with the car modified from day one. And my current quickest 0-100kph is 2.6secs. This was at the drag strip with street tires and a VHT prepped track

Some videos on You Tube http://www.youtube.com/user/evoair69

Any questions please ask

Thanks

Aaron